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I Have Nothing to Say About Modesty…

The subject of modesty is certainly a touchy one with some people. And by “touchy”, I mean “they will scratch your eyes out if you don’t shut up about it”.

I, like most people, also have opinions on this issue. It is not my goal to state those opinions in this blog, though. No, I think I would rather present a biblical viewpoint.

However, there are so many different translations/paraphrases of the Bible that I decided I would be fair and try to present as many as possible, so that I don’t misquote God’s Word.

So here goes:

[By the way, if you don’t know/love/appreciate/understand my sense of humor, please stop reading right here. Thanks. Just looking out for ya. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.]

I Timothy 2:9-10 says…

English Standard Version – “likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, but with what is proper for women who profess godliness – with good works.”

King James Version – “In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

1Ti 2:10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.”

New Century Version – “Also, women should wear proper clothes that show respect and self-control, not using braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes. Instead, they should do good deeds, which is right for women who say they worship God.”

New International Version – “I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God.”

The Message – “And I want women to get in there with the men in humility before God, not primping before a mirror or chasing the latest fashions but doing something beautiful for God and becoming beautiful doing it.”

New Exemption Version – “likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self control, unless they’re at the beach with their friends and a bunch of other nearly-naked people, in which case, please feel free to prance around wearing almost nothing. This verse doesn’t apply to those situations. In fact, this verse really doesn’t apply to you at all. You are exempt. Why? Because you are special. Because your parents will let you do these things, which makes these things right. After all, your permissive parents are going to trump God on Judgment Day anyway (see 2 Exceptions 3:43). Because God’s Word doesn’t apply to people who have worked out really hard and given up Twinkies for 6 months and want to show off their hotness to others. Because you should be able to have as much fun as you want to have without some old-fashioned, bikini-hatin’, fun-destroying, life-ruining Christian meddling in your business. Proceed to party.”

Facebook Standard Version – “And since the men have such a problem looking at your bodies anyway, how ’bout helping them out a little bit and stop posting pictures of yourself in what amounts to nothing more than colored underwear. Do something productive with your facebook account…and with your camera.”

New American Fathers’ Version – “And how in the world can you let your little girl run around with less clothes on than it would take to blow your nose with [which you should be quieter about, by the way; everyone in the building looks at you when you do that; it is a scientifically-proven fact that more nose hair=more volume]? Don’t you care that other guys (even older, grown MEN) are looking at her in ways that only her future husband should? Believe me, Dad, you’re going to have to make the final decision on this one because you are the only one who really understands this. Man up and do the right thing. By the way, Dad, if you want to avoid this altogether, take them to the mountains. When they hit that freezing Colorado air, they’ll bundle up.”

Brass Tacks Version – “Put some clothes on! [deep sigh]”

Maybe this will clear things up a little bit.

Jeremy Pate
Longwinded Shortcomings

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NO MORE SERVER

January 4, 2012 Leave a comment

The server that I have been putting my sermons on closed so you can no longer listen to them at this time.  I am currently looking at moving everything to another server.  Lord willing we will be up and going after the 1st of January.

Brian Gentle

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Getting To Know Your Bible TV Program

September 15, 2011 Leave a comment

Brother Billy Lambert just finished preaching our Homecoming/Gospel Meeting last night and did a wonderful job.  I wanted to make sure I posted this blog post to promote his TV program that is a great success in converting lost souls.  Please go to the website to listen &/or watch many lessons from God’s word.

I also like one of the articles I found on this website and I decided to put it on this post as well.

 

 

Why The church is OF Christ

1.  Who is its Founder and Builder? – Matthew 16:18

2.  Who is its Head? – Ephesians 1:22-23

3.  Who is its Foundation? – 1 Corinthians 3:11

4.  Who is its Savior? – Ephesians 5:23

5.  Who is its High Priest? – Hebrews 4:15

6.  Who is its Advocate? – 1 John 2:1-2

7.  Who is its Lawgiver? – Galatians 6:2

8.  Who is its Creed? – Matthew 16:16

9.  Who is its Husband? – 2 Corinthians 11:2

10.  Who is its Hope? – Colossians 1:27

11.  Who is its Purpose for Loving? – Philippians 1:21

12.  Who is its Purchaser? – Acts 20:28

13.  Who is its Intercessor? – Hebrews 7:25

14.  Who is its Peace? – Romans 5:1

15.  Who is its Provider? – John 10:10

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Why the Churches of Christ Were Right After All « heartcoreMethodist

I was sent the article below and I thought you might be interested in it.  Click on the link if you would like to read the responses as well.

Brian

Why the Churches of Christ Were Right After All « heartcoreMethodist.

My great grandfather and great grandmother Campbell were members of the Braxton Church of Christ in Cannon County, Tennessee, and after my great grandfather died and my great grandmother moved her three boys to Texas, she raised them in the South Park Church of Christ in Beaumont, Texas. My grandfather and one of his brothers married Methodist sisters and the women succeeded in diverting them into Methodist churches. The reputation that the Churches of Christ had among my kinfolk was that they were eccentric because they did not use musical instruments in worship, they celebrated the Lord’s Supper every Sunday, they didn’t have creeds (except the New Testament), and they seemed not to recognize other Christian churches who did not “bear the name” of Christ in the names of their (our) denominations.

This impression was solidified when in my senior year in high school I responded enthusiastically to an advertisement in a used-book shop in Beaumont promising free Greek lessons. I was taken to a small Church of Christ in Bridge City, Texas, where I got about forty-five minutes of instruction in the Greek alphabet and then I was treated to an hour and a half of heated discussion sparked by a question posed by a younger and obviously inexperienced minister, “If I go to a Baptist revival and I just sit on the back row and don’t sing the hymns or anything, does that constitute having ‘fellowship with unfruitful works of darkness’” (Ephesians 5:11)? The answer, I quickly learned, was yes, it does. And from the conversation in the car on the way to Bridge City and back I figured out that this was a group of Church of Christ folk who regarded a lot of other Churches of Christ folk as mere pretenders to the name. They were, I think, what my Campbell relatives called “hard-shell” Churches of Christ folk.

So I did not have a very positive impression of the Churches of Christ, but I’m beginning to change my mind, and now I’m thinking they may be right on some of those most interesting points that have distinguished them. I attended the Preston Road Church of Christ on Sunday March 6, 2011, deeply enjoyed the service, the singing, and the sermon by Rev. Scott Sager. I also was offered and received the Lord’s Supper there, so my great grandma Campbell can perhaps take solace in the fact that I am now in communion with at least one Churches of Christ congregation however soft-shelled they may be and however unwittingly this happened on the part of the congregation.

Here are five reasons why the Churches of Christ may be right after all.

First, they have a profound insight into Christian music and its place in worship. I’m not sure I buy the rationale that says that because the New Testament doesn’t mention musical instruments, congregations should not be forced to sing with them. The Churches of Christ seem to use plenty of stuff – like collapsible music stands – that are not to my recollection mentioned in the Holy Scriptures. But they sure do sing well and, speaking as a man on this point, I really appreciate a church that does not expect me to sing soprano, even transposed an octave lower. There’s something utterly wonderful about the sound of human voices blending together in harmony. I wonder if we have gone too far with our instrumental fetish in worship. First the instrumentalists just accompanied us, then they wanted to improvise on the last verse, forcing us all to sing soprano, and now they just seem to launch off into improvisation whenever they feel like it with no warning. Maybe we need to send out a message on our projection screens or with a flashing neon lights, “Everybody Sing Soprano Now” or “Altos, Tenors and Basses: Drop Off.” I’m tired of it; I think I like the Church of Christ.

Second, they’ve sure got the right name. If you think about, I mean, think about it from the perspective of a friendly outsider, “Methodist” and “Presbyterian” and “Baptist” are not really ace names for Christian groups. Even “Catholic” sounds a little pretentious and “Orthodox” a little snitty. “Church of Christ” sounds pretty straightforward by contrast. And you don’t find local Churches of Christ congregations named “Wellspring Cornerstone Kewl Informal Non-Stuffy Community,” just “Preston Road Church of Christ” or “Highway 59 Church of Christ.” Like the New Testament, they just name their congregations for the places where they meet, kind of like the hobbits who built a new row of houses and then after a long discussion decided to name it “New Row.” Perfectly straightforward. What’s not to like about that?

Third, the Churches of Christ celebrate the Lord’s Supper every Sunday. Churches of Christ folk haven’t fallen for Protestants’ quirky idea that words can suffice in place of bread and wine. The service at Preston Road was very simple, with an elder of the congregation offering a simple prayer of thanksgiving for the bread (which seemed to be matzot, the kind of unleavened bread that Jews eat during Passover) and a prayer of thanksgiving for the wine (which tasted a lot like grape juice), then the elements were distributed to the congregation in the pews. It reminded me a lot of the simple prayers over the bread and wine in the second-century Didache document; I wondered if the distinguished second-century scholar Everett Ferguson of Abilene Christian University had somehow influenced this congregation or its leaders.

Fourth, there really is only one Church of Christ. That’s one of the cardinal claims of the ecumenical movement of the twentieth century, and the Churches of Christ were way out front in making us aware of that claim. You don’t have to buy the “hard-shell” version of the Church of Christ teaching to own that basic truth.

Fifth, and perhaps most importantly, the simplicity of the Churches of Christ allows them to focus on what is most important, namely, the Gospel of Jesus Christ. There was no congregational creed beyond the songs we sang, of course, but a member of the congregation got up before the offering and exhorted us to consider the sacrifice of Christ as we give ourselves. He also mentioned that it was the 175th anniversary of the fall of the Alamo, which is pretty sacred for Texas folks and was aimed at driving home the importance of personal sacrifice though I worried that it came a little close to identifying Texan and Christian. But still, this man knew the faith and he presented the Gospel in a simple and straightforward manner. The pastor’s sermon on the salt and light passage in the Sermon on the Mount (St. Matthew 5:13-16) drove home the message that Christians need to be giving themselves for the world. The salt, he said, needs to get out of the salt shaker.

I came away with the sense that Churches of Christ folk really are the hobbits of the Christian world: not a lot of technological razzmatazz, not a lot of heavy emotion, not an elaborate or sophisticated liturgy, they just get the job done. There is a primitive simplicity to their communities that really stands out among other church bodies trying to be the church of Christ. We’d do well to learn from them and thank God for their witness.

Ted Campbell
7 March 2011

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An Unknown Branch

February 12, 2011 Leave a comment

Most of you have never heard a name like “Gentle.” In fact there is only one other group that I am aware of that has that name and is no relation to us or at least we have not found it yet. Most of the time when someone asks if I am related to “so & so” Gentle the answer will be yes. I do not know any one personally that has my name that I am not kin to. There are several good people in my family and I appreciate all that I have learned from them through the years.
Today, as I was looking at some old material (Carolina Christian) that my grand-dad (Floyd Gentle) or my uncles (Tim & Ted Gentle) gave me I came across the picture and article below. I have never heard of the name “Buck Gentle” before but let me tell you…after I read the article I just hope that I can be remembered as well as he was.

Buck Gentle – A Loving Memory

Denie Gentle, Statesville, NC.

It hath been said that we are a part of everyone we meet. Then how should we order our lives so that in touching others we might leave behind us a trace of love to lift and strengthen those we hold dear to our hearts?

Our Lord hath left us the perfect example. In His word He tells us to be an “example in love,” “walk worthy of the vocation wherein ye are called,” “if ye love not one another whom ye have seen, how can you love God, whom you have not seen?”

There has been a “giant” of strength that has passed through my life and I wish to share him with you. Even as a picture portrays only one glimpse of a person, so also words seem inadequate to describe this person to you. What did this man possess that we should hold him in so high esteem?
I first met this man approximately 25 years ago as he and his wife “found” our congregation in their search for the truth as God would have us know it. To the Lord he was dedicated, knowing that through the church the manifold wisdom of God is made known. A servant of the Lord, he went about doing things quietly, so that perhaps in one not knowing what he did, he did not realize that he was the reason that “this is left wanting.” A father in guiding his family, it was only a short time until his entire family were with him in the Lord’s church. As it were a last word of advice, “be strong in the Lord, and in His great might.”

This man was a self-made man — he took what is available to each of us and became a man. He took the thought, “If a thing is worth doing, it is worth doing right.” Those who knew him in his work, knew that he went about it with an air of confidence which he had gained through trial and error — learning to be patient, unhurried — doing it right the first time around. An artist in his field, he was an A-i mechanic. Oh, you couldn’t tell this by his hands, the usual tell-tale signs of hard, greasy work. He also had found a way to keep his hands in shape, as well as his tools. (He would have been a brilliant surgeon.) Even after retirement and even when he was unable to go, he received calls, either, ‘‘Can you come and tell me ‘how-to’?” or “Can you tell me ‘how-to’ over the phone?”

He loved to eat and enjoyed the bounties of his garden, sharing with others. In this, too, he was a perfectionist, having learned when and how to plant and reap. He was well versed in our political system and loved history.  He loved people and especially children. He also had a special place in his heart for those who preached the gospel.  He was a physiologist in giving advice. He would always tell you what he would do, then leave the decision up to you.  He showed hospitality. I was never made to feel unwelcome in his home, but a part of his family.

He began each day with the Bible and it was my privilege to read to him from its well-worn pages a few times when he was unable to attend services during his short bout with cancer. His faithful wife of 52 years is left to continue to strengthen and encourage our family and congregation with her quiet, gentle ways of love.

Who is this man of strength that has passed through and from my life? You knew him as “Buck Gentle”; I knew him as “PAPA.”

(Carolina Christian, Vol. 21, NO. 3, March 1979, pg. 12)

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